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Babri Masjid Verdict, Ayodhya Verdict, Babri Masjid controversy

Babri Masjid Verdict, Ayodhya Verdict, Babri Masjid controversy

A court will rule on Friday whether Hindus or Muslims own land around the demolished Babri mosque in Ayodhya, a judgement haunted by memories of a 1992 riot, some of the country’s worst violence since the partition.

The case over the 16th century Babri mosque in Uttar Pradesh is one of the biggest security challenges in India this year, along with a Maoist insurgency and a Kashmiri separatist rebellion, Prime Minister Manmohan Singh has said.

The verdict could prove a major political quandary for the government led by the Congress Party, a left-of-centre party with secular roots.

A verdict in favour of the Hindus would force the government to uphold the verdict, making it unpopular with Muslims, a key vote bloc.

A ruling for the Muslims would mean the government would have to push Hindu groups out of the site, a political minefield.

Any outlook is almost certain to be challenged in the Supreme Court and a final decision could take years to come.

The government has other problems, including the separatist revolt in Kashmir that has claimed more than 100 lives.

“The worst case scenario for Congress would be some judgement that makes them restore the mosque,” said Praveen Swami, security expert at The Hindu newspaper.

“They don’t want to take sides in this.”

About 80 percent of India’s 1.1 billion plus population are Hindus, but Muslims represent 13 percent — some 140 million that put it behind Indonesia and Pakistan in the ranks of Muslim populations.

Hindu mobs demolished the mosque in the town of Ayodhya, claiming it was built on the birthplace of their god-king Rama. The demolition triggered religious riots that killed some 2,000.

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  1. Peace says:

    Babri Majid – Full History

    On December 23rd, Muslims finished their night prayer and left to their home. A shock was waiting for them, who came for fajr prayer. Inside the Mosque a mob kept Rama, Laxamana, Sita statues and claimed that their God took avatar (appeared) inside the mosque and they started agitating against innocent Muslims.

    An FIR was filed at faisabad police stations. Afterwards central and state government banned Muslims to conduct prayer inside the mosque and this became one of the important issue in Indian history.

    Then Innocent Hindu’s mind were brain-washed with hatred feeling against Muslims by spreading a false propaganda that “Babri Majid was built by demolishing Ram Temple”

    If the propaganda of Saffron Group ” Babri majid was built after demolishing Ram Temple” is true then no Muslims will fight for this issue. Because in Islam, demolishing other religious Temple is strictly prohibited. Due to their false claim about Ram Temple, Muslims are fighting to get back their mosque.

    We don’t want to divert the subject by exposing the comment of Chatterji, AK majumdhar, Nehru that RAM is an imaginary character.

    Because the subject is to discuss by doing research whether any Ram temple exists in the disputed location ? Whether Majid was built in that location by demolishing Ram temple? Not about the existence of Ram or whether it is imaginary character or not!!!

    Even Ram is an imaginary character; no Muslims will accept the demolition of Ram temple and build a mosque in that location.

    Was Ram born at Ayodhya ?

    We’ll see how the claim of Ram born in that disputed location will be true.

    Whatever the decision Hindus want to take, it should not be fundamentally taken from the comment of RSS or any other saffron organization. It should be taken from Hindus Vedas and Purunas. In fact, it would be opposite to Hindu ideology, if some decision taken apart from this jurisdiction of Vedas.

    Valmiki wrote first about Ram and his words explained everything about Ram in crystal clear format. Valmiki explained in his Ramayana that he born at DHIREDHA Yuga.

    A basic measurement unit of time, to denote the Hindu’s belief of time is Yuga. There are four Yugas.

    Kirudha yuga 17,28,000 ( 17 lakhs, 28 thousands ) years

    Dhiredha Yuga 12,96,000 ( 12 lakhs, 96 thousand) years

    Duvaba Yuga 8,64,000 ( 8 lakhs, 64 thousand ) years

    Kali Yuga 4,32,000 ( 4 lakhs, 32 thousand ) years

    Now we are living in the time of Kali Yuga. Kali Yuga starts before 3102 years of Christ. Now 2009 finished after Christ. So 5110 years finished after kali yuga starts.

    Duvaba yuga was before Kali Yuga and Ram didn’t born during this time. Before this was Dhiredha Yuga and even Ram born during last stage of this Yuga and according to Valmiki Ramayana’s Judgment ” Ram should have born before 8,69,110 years ( 8,64,000 + 5110 )

    Like Valmiki Ramayana told about Ram’s Yuga, he specified the birth place too that is “He born at Ayodhya city ”

    That means ” Ayodhya” should exists before 8 Lakhs, 64 thousand years. A report was submitted on 1976, 77 by central government archeological department regarding ” when Ayodhya appeared?”. This report in its 52, 53 page explained that “A place name called Ayodhya in which people started dwelling was before 700 BC.

    That means, before 2708 years, there would be no Ayodhya according to their archeological research.

    Afterwards this was re-researched by C.P.Lal and K.N Theetjit , a notable historian. They also found that it was true whatever the archeological department found.

    Valmiki told that Ram born before 8 lakhs 69 thousand years at Ayodhya, but it is crystal clear that there was nothing called Ayodhya at that time.

    How Hindus can conclude by neglecting Ramayana and archeological finding?

    The age of this Ayodhya is 2708 years. But this is not the one explained by Ramayana. May be it is in different place. It is general to find many places in the same name. By considering these facts, they have to come for conclusion, which will not contradict with Ramayana and research facts.

    There is lot of testimonials in Ramayana that Ram born at Ayodhya which is different from the existing one.

    While speaking about Ayodhya, Ramayana spoke about Sarayu River. Sarayu River exists 1.5 yojan distances from Ayodhya. (1.5 yojan means 23 kilometers )

    Even though there’s one river called Sarayu at Ayodhya, it’s running inside the city, not 23 kilometers away from the city.

    That means, Ayodhya and Sarayu River told by Ramayana is not the existing one. Ramayana teachings will be correct when you believe Sarayu River flows 23 kilometers away from Ayodhya.

    People are simply neglecting Hinduism, if they consider existing Ayodhya is same like Ayodhya explained in Ramayana.

    Also Valmiki Ramayana explains that “ Sarayu River join with Ganga”. But this Sarayu River mingles with Raabthi River. What we learnt from this? Ramayana doesn’t denote this Ayodhya and Sarayu river. Also Valmiki Ramaya explains Sarayu river flows from east to west. But Sarayu river in UP flow from west to east.

    A researcher, Saer Singh Identified a truth. There is one Ayodhya at Nepal. 20 kilometers away from that city one river is flowing from east to west. Also it mingles with Ganga.

    So, those who believe Ram born at Ayodhya, which is at Uttarpradesh, are neglecting Ramayana and its ideology.

    Real Ayodhya should be one, which was explained by the Ramayana with all testimonials.

    was Ram temple existed at Ayodhya ?

    Babar Majid was build at 1528. We’ll see whether any truth present with the opinion of ” Mir Baahi” a minister of Baber, who was accused for demolishing Ram Temple in the disputed location”

    RSS claimed that Ram temple was built by king Vikramathithya. Vikramathidya is general name like Chola,Pandya kings. Chandra Gupta, samutra Gupta kings are called in the name of Vikramathidya.

    They contradict in specifying the actual king who really built the Ram temple. There is not fact in their claim.

    Gupta kings ruled some part of U.P during the period 300 AD to 1100 AD. These kings who ruled for 800 years are called as Vikramathidya.

    During the period 300 AD to 1100 AD, there was not even a smell of human at Ayodhya, according to the chief of Indian Archeological department.

    P.P Lal who submitted research report and was published at famous magazines” The Week” (25.02.1990) and “Sunday Times” (20.11.1987 ). In that report, after showing several evidences, he was confidently explained that, at Ayodhya during that period of 300 – 1100 AD, there was no human, building, temple or anything.

    In some place, which is untouched by human, how can they build a temple? How Baber can demolish a temple which was not existed? I request Hindu Brothers and sisters to think about this.

    When Ram was worshipped as God?

    If temple to be built for Ram, it should be built after Ram was worshipped as God. Now Hindus are worshiping Ram as God, but they didn’t do it before. Ram was not considered as God, Especially during the period of 300-1100 AD, which was claimed by RSS, the time when Ram temple was built.

    Amar Simha of AD 600, released many Sanskrit Poetry resources in the name of ” Amara Kosa”. In that, those who are worshipped as God in India were specified. Ram name was not in the list. So Hindus during that period were not considering Ram as GOD’s Avatar and its considered as big testimonial.

    A Sadhu called Lakhsmidhar, collected the information of all sacred place up to 11th century (until last time of Gupta Dynasty). Ayodhya Ram temple is not existed in that.

    If Ram temple was build during Gupta period, why it was not included in the list of sacred place?

    Same like that, S.S.Iyer , a notable research scholar, published book called ” Indian Temples, Historic notes”. He didn’t specify anything about Ram temple. He noted five temples which was built by Vikramathidya. Ayodhya Ram temple is not there.

    At 1989 November 12, IAS officer Ramachandra Kadri wrote one article at “Radiance”. He referred so many evidences with Encyclopedia like Britannica and comment that only after 1100 AD, Ram was worshipped as God.

    That means, until the last period of Gupta kings, Ram was not worshipped as God. Can any Hindu who has real conscience, believe that Ram temple was build during the Gupta period?

    If we want to tell more clearly, Valmiki wrote Ramayana in Sanskrit. Sanskrit was not popularly spoken by all people and only Brahmins knew about that. Because of this Ram was not considered as God.

    Valmiki Ramayana was translated and released in Hindi by Tulsi Das. After that, Ramayana was very famous among people. After Tulsi Das translated Ramayana in Hindi, people start considering Ram as God’s Avatar.

    What’s the time of Tulsi Das ? Tulsi Das Lived during the period of Baber (in Ayodhya ), which was claimed for demolition of Ram temple. Baber ruled during 1500 AD and Tulsi was living under that rule.

    Ramayana was translated in Hindi during the rule of Baber and that time Ram was not considered as God. So it becomes true that Hindu people didn’t have any knowledge about him.

    How Ram was worshiped as GOD when Ramayana was not spread across people? How temple was build for him? Dear Hindu Brothers and sisters, think about this.

    India’s first president was Dr. Radha Krishnan. His son Gopal who was good Hindu devotee and very good research scholar too. In his research article, he proclaimed that “There was no temple for Ram before 1750 AD, in any part of India. He confidently declared that “All Ram temple belongs to 18th century”.

    if Ram temple was not existed before 200 years, how Baber demolish Ram temple at Disputed location of Ayodhya. I request every citizen, to think about this.

    The truth is, the foundation of Babri Majid was laid by Ibrahim Lodi, on 1524. He was unable to continue the service for long time and he was killed in war by Baber. Then, Baber build a Majid, with the foundation laid by Ibrahim Lodi. So it is untrue to tell that Baber demolished the temple.

    Will Baber Demolish temple ?

    So far, the evidences provided here is enough for everyone, who can really able to distinguish between good and bad. For debate purpose, even though if any temple was there in the disputed location, Baber would not demolish that.

    Because, in same Ayothya, for five temples like Hunumangiri ,Jenmasthan, Baber provided incentives by writing in brass . This been safeguarded still now by temple management and was reiterated with evidences by Ramrasha Thiribathi.

    How a person will demolish a temple, who provided incentives to many temples?

    Also the population of Muslims during Baber reign would be meager when compared with present population. Sovereignty of the kingdom will be maintained only by the support of majority Hindus. Baber would be thrown-out from his throne, by agitators of Hindu Majority, if their temple was demolished. No king will be involved in such activities, if he really wants to retain his power.

    Hindus during that time were not involved in any riots or agitation, but only welcomed all Mughal heirs like Babar, his son Humayun, his son Akbar. This shows the courtesy and kindness were showered by Mughal emperors towards Hindu majority.

    During the last time of Baber, he wrote one WILL to his son Humayun written in Persian language and it is been preserved still today at Central government’s National museum at Delhi. In that he gave advise as “Dear son, you are going to rule a country where Hindus are in majority. They are respecting COW as God. So don’t eat Cow’s meat (Beef) at any instance.

    How a Good Citizen can believe that Baber demolished a temple, who advised his son to renounce the eating habit of Cow’s meat (beef)?

    Guru Nanak who founded Sikh religion was considered as big enemy during Baber’s reign. He rigorously opposed Baber, especially for the issues related with women. If Baber demolished the temple, he would have indicated that with his strong resentment. But history commenting that he went to Ayodhya and enjoyed the beauty of Babri Majid’s Structure.

    Person like him who lived in those years only knew that whether Baber constructed Majid by demolishing temple. In such case, he would never enjoy its building structure.

    Some falsely imagine and claim that people didn’t oppose the rule because of Babar’s tyrant nature.

    Baber was neither hated by Hindu people nor was he was a tyrant king. This is the truth. For debate purpose, if we consider Baber was a tyrant king, it would not be true.

    After Baber, his kingdom was ruled by his son Humayun. After 25 years of Baber’s death, his grandson Akbar ruled the kingdom. He gave up Islam and was following New Religion Din-ilahi, for which he was the founder. Akbar was like a Hindu king and even he got appreciation from many saffron organizations.

    If Baber demolished the temple, it should have been noticed by many people who lived during the period of Akbar too. They don’t need to worry about Akbar and they would have asked to rebuild the temple which was demolished by his grandfather. Surely, Akbar would have satisfied such people, if his grandfather would have demolished such structure. People could have requested, only if temple was demolished!!! But there happened no such incidents.

    We’ll leave that. Even after the Mughals era was ended by Britishers, this issue was not raised by anyone until 1948. There was no case registered too.

    In 200 years rule of British:

    No case was registered during British rule against the demolition of mosque and nobody requested British government to get back their temple.

    Problem suddenly rose to its full vigor only after December 23, 1949, when a mob placed Ram idol inside the mosque.

    In Ayodhya there are more than 30 Temples which manifest about Ram’s birth place. Hindu scholars identified many places as Ram’s birth place and they didn’t include Babri Majid among them.

    This was the reality, until saffron group diverted the attention of Hindus by such false claims.

    Saffron Group discovered that by evoking extreme hatred among Hindus and Muslims, they can capture the opportunity to rule India from Congress. Finally they captured the rule by cheating innocent Hindu citizens who believe that” All the glitters are Gold “.

    Dear Hindu Brothers and Sisters!!!

    We’ll strive to preserve the UNITY.

    We’ll neglect communal forces, which have vested interest in creating extreme friction to the development of our country.

    We’ll work hard for the economic development of our country and for its prosperous future.

    Herewith we’ll do oath to respect the Court verdict and not involving in any anti-social elements

  2. Kishore says:

    Dear Author, thanks for all the info in this your article. Read it to the full, found many interesting facts and I’ am really very flatened about your closing lines to your article. Well written.

  3. Rnyk says:

    But y do u want to build a mosque there itself??
    Mosque requires Such kinda place??

  4. I have read the whole article, the whole history of this matter proves that there is nothing to fight about and this matter has ridiculously became a controversy.
    I dont think that there should be any controversy behind this issue.
    i feel that every hindu n every indian must read the above article…………..

  5. i have one question? Did you reffer the ramamyana before writing the article? if you are very sure about all the dates and years i am convinced that it is all a hype and a big lie and if not then the facts that are mentioned in the article are absolutely wrong.

  6. Right bro just enjoy the life and be cool and do remember your god & gods.

  7. amjad says:

    Once upon a time, there used to be two friends Ram and Rahim. They were so close as an object with shadow. They used to live together, eat together, enjoy together ……. do everything together except their worship, that was the only thing, where they took two different path. Ram used to go to a temple for worship and Rahim used to go to mosque for worship.
    One morning Ram was waiting for his friend Rahim. This is the first time when Rahim was so late and not yet returned from mosque after his morning prayer. Ram was anxious about his friend so went to look for him. He went towards the mosque and found Rahim was sobbing under a tree, his eyes were full of tears. Ram approached swiftly to his friend and put his hand on his shoulder and asked what happened with you brother. Rahim began to sob and replied somebody has broken my mosque in the night. Ram hugged him as such as he never hugged him before and whispered in his ears don’t worry my brother everything will be fine. Rahim heaved a sigh of relief and said yeah I know brother but my worship place is totally burned and demolished, where I will offer my prayers. Ram thought for a moment and told if you don’t mind you can share my temple for your prayers, I will arrange everything as per your requirement, you can keep your religious books and sacred stuff at there. Rahim accepted his idea and started prayer in the temple. He started to offer all prayers as usual as he used to offer in the mosque.
    One day Ram and Rahim planed and went for outing for couple of days. When they came back, they found that the temple was no more, it was demolished and burnt by somebody. After looking this both of them bent down on their knees hopelessly. They stammered ‘Hey God’ what we will do now. Finally they made a place to worship in the open ground. Eventually the open ground became a place of worship for them throughout the life. They grow up become older and died. When both were in the heaven and was looking to heaven Rahim asked to Ram, Brother this is the place for that we were doing prayer so much. Ram replied softly yeah brother that’s the result of our patience. Rahim said yeah brother that’s the true, let’s go and see what is there? Everything they saw, was never seen in their life. At the end of heaven, they saw a place full of fire. They asked to the keeper, who was standing there, what for the fire is? Is it the hell nearby? The keeper said, yes my lord, you are at the gate of hell.
    They asked to keeper, could we see it a little bit close? The keeper said, why not sir! you are welcome to visit the hell. They asked again with wonder, will fire not burn us? The keeper replied with a smile on his face. My lord no fire can burn you since it is not for you. Then they walked through the fire looking upon the people, they were burning and asking for help, let us forgive, please give us another chance, we will never do wrong again.
    After looking it they called to the God loudly ‘Hey God, please help them’ a sweet voice came out of the ‘Ram – Rahim, don’t be bother about that, they deserved for it, they have prepared the fire by themselves before coming here, nobody is responsible for that. They asked to God what was so bad they did. God replied they broke my house, that’s why they are in trouble. Ram and Rahim couldn’t say anything about them and kept their steps to next door of the hell. They saw there, the fire was twice fierce than the first gate. They asked question again what sin they did it. God replied when the first people broke my first home I was in confidence because the second was there but these people broke my second home, and I became homeless that’s why their torment is doubled.

  8. somasundaram says:

    That was realy nice article every indian should read it, as per you article and the as per the knowledge of indian histiry, i feel it true.because at that time itself akbar wanted hindu muslim unity and his grand father who started that initiative by giving incentives to temples , so he cannot destroy a temple and built a mosque , and there was no necessity because he was not against hindus as per indian histroy , some external forces now creating a funda to break the hindu muslim unity.

  9. Rahul Sharma says:

    the first comment above was an eye opener to me..thanks… political parties used this issue just to gain vote bank of we hindus… there was no ram temple at that place…

  10. really amaging every indian should understand it………

  11. sathya says:

    Great Explanation and good work.Lets be together always…

  12. ven facts as above are posted,there is no matter why people dont believe..really a must read dat shall surely make a difference in d way of thinking in v hindus.lets stand united in d hour of great need without any religious barriers!!!!lets b INDIANS
    rather than muslims n hindus..

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